Paint or Stain??? That is THE question
Here's our huge issue....our trim (baseboard, window and door) on the main floor. What should we do- stained or painted trim? (and if stained which wood species?)
A little background for you:
1) I'm horrible at making decisions. Just ask my husband. Some of my decisions have turned out to be blunders. Some huge mistakes I've made we've been able to correct (at great cost)...like the kitchen island. Others- like our too small windows and yellow kitchen cabinets- will take lots of time and MONEY to change (and might never happen). Given my history of bad decisions I've been paralyzed making any more decisions (except wall color- I know I can change that easily!).
2) We took the trim off over a year ago so that we could more easily paint the walls. We decided that since we never liked the standard builder trim that we would replace it with something else. We know we want to have an extra wide baseboard. We haven't finalized the trim style around the windows and doors but I think we'll go for something simple.
3) I hate orange and yellow wood. We have unstained maple cabinets in the kitchen. They looked beautiful when they were first installed but now they look yellow. I honestly don't like it. I'd like to say that I'm trying very hard to not be whiny- just wanted to qualify my bad decision making statement I made earlier. I also don't like the standard builder trim that is in the rest of the house- it's very orange and skinny.

4) I doubt we'll live in this house for the rest of our lives...meaning we need to take resale value into consideration. Most of the houses in this area have the stained trim. I'm not sure if doing part of the house painted trim and leaving the other part stained will affect the resale value (or whatever you call that).
5) We're not woodworkers. We've tried tackling other woodworking projects. If we've been successful it was due to Mark's Dad (he's an awesome woodworker) helping us. We're still -every-so-slowly-since-it's-such-a-huge-pain-in-the-rear- working on our kitchen island. We hate using stain and we hate varnish. One project we've been successful at: our wood treads going to the second floor.
6) I would love to add architectural interest to the interior. I'm sure that could be accomplished by adding crown/ceiling moulding and/or wainscoting to the walls but like I said we're not woodworkers. I really don't like how it's one open room without any physical deliniation between the spaces. In the original house plans there were stub walls but I made the very poor decision of removing them. Stupid me.
7) I prefer the look of painted trim. In rare cases I've seen homes look stunningly gorgeous with wood trim too. I think my husband prefers stained trim (but I think he's willing to compromise).
8) Our doors are solid wood. Most have been varnished (but not all). I feel kind of weird about painting the doors but perhaps that's the right thing to do. How would it look if they were painted on one side but left varnished on the other side? (that is if the suggestion is to paint them).
Varnished doors with red door:
Unvarnished door:
9) The windows- well...I just don't know; I'm at a complete loss. Not all the window have been varnished. We hate varnish (the fumes put us in an extremely foul mood..seriously!). However, if we left them varnished what would it look like to have painted trim? Or would it be better to paint the windows to match the trim? Would white trim make the windows look bigger? Here's one HUGE mistake we made while building this house- we didn't realize how small the windows actually were. I had it in my head that our windows were quite a bit larger but it didn't translate to that in reality. I wish that the two windows on the wall with the woodstove were both double windows. There's not a lot of light coming in as it is. I think if we stayed here eventually we would put in larger windows but that's not something we can even consider right now.
10) The floor in the living room is natural/unstained maple. There is cream/pink-ish/beige mottled tile in the foyer and kitchen areas.
11) For reference...the walls in the living room area are painted SW Svelte Sage and the rest of the main floor is painted SW Latte. I like the wall colors (although I admit that the Svelte Sage has an unnatural yellow-ish appearance when the ceiling lights are turned on)
12) I've mentioned that the kitchen cabinets are unstained natural maple. The kitchen island is maple that we've stained a deep mahogany. I love the mahogany color! I love how the island is slowly coming together. If we were to stay in this house I think I would paint the rest of the kitchen cabinets a creamy white color (or something else?), hire someone to put crown moulding on top and replace the strange green laminate countertop with something else that would complement the island countertop (which is Zodiaq Cygnus Pearl). That would be a monstrous job and something we wouldn't consider doing for a few or even several years. (I should I also mention that most of the houses here don't have painted cabinets so I'm not sure about this one).
Island BEFORE (also our dining furniture has changed):
Close-up of window in kitchen with weird green laminate countertop:
13) Perhaps I should mention that there's a mish-mash of various wood species and stains already in this house. Mostly unstained maple but our solid doors are hemlock (I think) and the window casings and frames are something else. The oak treads (from main floor to 2nd floor) are stained a dark color (not really mahogany though). We have a natural cherry dining set that is getting darker as we speak (love cherry!). We also have other furniture in dark brown stains.
14) I'm not opposed to hiring someone to help with the decision making process. However I'm weary of doing that...how do I know that person will help decisions based on my situation? I don't want someone to give me an answer based solely on my opinions (especially since we'll need to consider resale value) or based on their preferences. Also, I'm a little nervous about how much such a service would cost. I mean....it could certainly be worth it if it meant me not tearing out any more of my hair but what if turns into one gigantic mistake? I've already made too many of mistakes. Changing wall color- that's easy. Changing trim- not so easy.
Whew!
Are you still with me?
I know I've said a lot. I just wanted to lay out all the cards on the table.
Photo looking at living room (notice the very small windows):
Front door (I love how the crisp white door looks against the sage green walls):
Also in foyer; doors leading to tiny library/computer room; stair case:

Did I miss anything?
Now...given everything I've mentioned what would you do? And why? I'm begging- pleading- for help. We've been without trim for over a year.


Hello there!
I really appreciate you seeking my opinion, however, I am not good at things like this....I paint but never stain but this is a tough one. So I am going to refer you to someone who may know...go to my blog list to Sanctuary Årts at Home...she is very good with paints and stain..ask her!!! I have asked her questions before!
Sorry I am no help!
-Sandy toe
I think if you like painted trim you should paint the trim. Just choose boundaries before you start, and do the whole house the same. Like decide you're going to do all the baseboards and around the doors, but not the actual doors. As long as it's cohesive and looks good, you won't have any problems selling later.
I don't know if it reassures you at all, or takes the edge off your frustration ... but I think that your house is very very beautiful just as it is, and I don't think that the decisions you made in building and decorating were blunders or mistakes. All I would say is that your tastes have changed along the way and now you want something different. But what is there looks very elegant both in these pictures and in person. Since you put together something very attractive last time (even though you are tired of it), I am sure that it will look even better this time as you've had more time to think and plan, and more time to live in the space and really get an idea of what you want and like. And I agree with Sally; don't worry too much about if you're going against the "usual" for your area. As long as it's quality work and there's flow from room to room, you shouldn't have any trouble with resale.
First and foremost, I think you have an amazing home. Uh..hello? That ISLAND? It's gorgeous! However, you ASKED for help, and I want to help if I can. My vote is paint. Paint. it. all. My personal opinion is that stained trim really only belongs in a period house. Victorian homes, craftsman homes...these types call for stained trim. However, if you're teetering on this decision at ALL, I say paint. I LOVE the look of painted trim--especially when it's large (as yours seems to be). I know you didn't ask, but as soon as I saw your cabinets (that you're unhappy with) I thought, "she needs to paint them black." A LOT of people in blogland are doing it, and it's transforming their homes. And from what I can tell, they would go beautifully with your stained island. I am in love with all your paint colors, but the white trime would make those colors really pop. Keep in mind...this is only one person's opinion. Like you, I have a hard time making up my mind, so I hope you take this as a vote--not as a command. Good luck!
P.S. You need to do a blog post just on that island. Seriously, we need to see more of it! :)
You have a very beautiful home! I think you've already made the decision, you just need the confidence to carry it out. You have been living with "white trim" for a while now---without the trim, the color underneath is white. Do you like the look? It doesn't matter what the other homes in the area look like. In fact, having your home different may be a great selling factor.
I think that painting your trim SW Alabaster or SW Creamy would look beautiful! White trim is a very traditional and elegant look. Also if you choose to paint, you save money! You won't have to buy stain grade molding. You could even use MDF, which is a great money saving alternative. Paint the baseboards and door trims first. If you love the look then go for the window casings. You'll just need to prime them first.
Having white trim may help to tone down the "orange" in the doors because the sage color actually brings out the orange since they're complementary colors.
If you do choose to paint the moldings then do it throughout your house, even if you don't replace the original moldings in other areas.
If you were paying me, as a designer, to give you an opinion this is exactly what I would say. I hope it helps.
Oh! Have you tried using a water based stain or poly? The fumes aren't as strong as an oil based.
Look, if you have never stained wood before, the trim for the largest asset you probably own (your home) is NOT the place to start.
I notice that you have painted white crown molding. Stick to that look and use painted trim. Paint the trim before cutting and nailing to wall. Use semi-gloss or gloss paint. A mini roller works wonders.
Use MDF and Latex or Acrylic paint.
PS: I second everything Chris said.
I dig the house Astrid.
My suggestion is go with MDF if you're going to paint. It's easy to work with, and cheaper. If it's painted, then there's no point in going real wood.
Keep things consistent throughout. It seems that they did a real simple job on the the trim. To make it more interesting, you should cap/crown the doors. Get a wide base material that has simple profile on the top, and maybe add a shoe for your base trim.
Crown molding is doable as well. You could crown just the main rooms.
I would go with paint. It's easier, cheaper, and less smelly.
Just my thoughts, since I work with the stuff.
Paint My Blog Sister! Paint and stain no more! I have lived in a house with each and I must say I like the clean, crisp look of paint. I am in agreement with the comment of consistant paint color. Your house, your Home, is darling and centered around what is Most Important- Family. And BTW, Don't be Scared of making a decision! I love the verse that says, "God has not given you a spirit of fear but of power and love and self discipline." 2Tim 1:7
See? You are obviously a smart woman- Mark wouldn't have given you a second look if you weren't! Now, get to paintin' and post the "after" pics! I can't wait!
Thanks for all the comments! Keep 'em coming!
I guess I should have stated initially that while I love painted trim I wanted to be certain that it was the right thing for our house. Paint is probably easier and cheaper but is it necessarily the right thing? Sometimes the easiest thing isn't always the right thing. Perhaps it is in this case. KWIM? Also Mark has expressed (in the past) that he prefers stained trim. However, I think perhaps now I could talk him into painted trim!
Now, I mentioned painting the rest of the trim in the house to Mark and he said NO WAY. Is it okay to do this room by room when we have the energy? I can't imagine tackling a project of this magnitude all in one go.
Beth & Sally- thanks for your opinions! I really do appreciate them!
Chris- thanks for the compliments on the island! It's 80% finished. It's been extremely challenging for us to do. It's the project that has made us decide that we're not woodworkers. I have seen the beautiful kitchens with black cabinets in Blog Land. I'm afraid that it would make my house look like a deep dark cave (it's dark enough as it is).
Allie- I'm not sure what you mean by the painted crown moulding. Actually, I don't have any crown moulding in the house. I'd love it though! If you're referring to the photo of the green room with the stained door- that's in my bedroom and I left a white border at the top (instead of painting the green all the way up to the ceiling). Don't know why I did it but it doesn't look terrible.
Joy- I can't thank you enough for chiming in. It does sound like I've made up my mind, doesn't it? Well...several weeks ago I thought stained trim was the right thing. I've looked at so many photos of houses and I've come to realize that painted trim looks sharp and crisp...and well I was honestly not sure of my decision to do stained trim. So it's really been a toss up. Plus, my husband prefers stained trim but we're at a point now where I (think)can talk him into painted trim.
Kris- What are your opinions on MDF? I've heard both good and bad about it. Beth has it in her house and it looks fabulous!
Emily- your comments crack me up! Thanks for your input!
I love the look of painted trim... But I think the doors should match the trim and since your doors are stained... your trim should be stained also..
I'll agree with Chris above, wood stain belongs in period homes. Paint that trim!
HI! I got your comment! I really think you should paint the doors and the trim white. It will look so clean and bright for resale. It' easier to do as well. Plus, paint won't smell as bad as stain or be as temperamental. Use a gloss or semi-gloss and if you don't like stark white, there are a lot of great shades of white with different color undertones. Mine are more of a cream than white. If you need anything else, please don't hesitate to ask!
I started to stain a hutch..stopped midway and am going to paint it...staining is a pain.
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MDF is basically compressed wood, sawdust with glue that's been primed. It's easy to cut and paint. Many houses use it for trim.
MDF is great stuff. It doesn't do so well in the bathroom, since it doesn't take water that well, but with a good paint/caulk job, that won't matter.
Around the house, if the trim is painted, there is very little difference between wood trim and MDF.
Also... MDF usually comes primed, so you can just paint it. Need to caulk first of course. ;)
I would suggest it.
I think paint is the way to go. It will unify the house and will match your future crown moulding.
It will be lovely...don't worry!
Good luck!
Linda